Thoughts (Die Gedanken sind Frei)

Posted by MahFreenAmeh on Feb. 20, 2007, 5:24 p.m.

For those of you who don't know, Die Gedanken sind Frei is an extremely awesome song by Megaherz, I believe.

Anyways. As per the body of this blog, I noticed earlier that I was thinking for once about things that were actually SLIGHTLY amusing. To some extent. At least, they were to me.

As per what I was thinking about, I found myself thinking about, no surprise here, languages, and The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy.

On the subject of languages, I thought of all the different possibilities I had to make a language.

For instance, most of my common languages in the recent time that has past, have been what one might call agglutinative. The upside to agglutination is, despite the confusion that it calls for, a rather interesting language. The downside, is, of course, confusion in the case of many.

Just as well, there is the idea of inflection, like most languages nowadays. That tends to be easier to read, but it takes all of the fun out of things. Compare:

Assuming that two languages have been taken, one inflectional, one agglutinative. The sentence is, " I enjoy food." Assuming that the languages are alike in aspect of vocabulary and grammar, but not in style, compare:

Ij maake eten

As compared to a possible

Ijmaakeetenen

So it's fundamentally the same thing, except for the addition of en to eten, signifying that that is the direct object being modified by the verb, so to speak.

I do seem to be rambling.

Anyways, I also thought of another interesting concept in a language: Meaning derived from morphemes and the like.

Say that a certain language had morphemes such as Ka and Oso, each meaning "Of or relating to buildings," and "Of or relating to actions," respectively. Say you wanted to form a word:

Osoka: Verb, To build, to form, et cetera.

The concept of using morphemes within a language instead of actual words themselves would allow the language to be dynamic, and developed by the speakers, not necessarily by the founder.

I don't have anything more to say. My arms hurt like hell today.

Comments

Rez 17 years, 9 months ago

What?

shawn 17 years, 9 months ago

Huh?

MahFreenAmeh 17 years, 9 months ago

Your mother.

shawn 17 years, 9 months ago

Who?

shawn 17 years, 9 months ago

What?

shawn 17 years, 9 months ago

Where?

Rob 17 years, 9 months ago

uhh?

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Rob 17 years, 9 months ago

When?

WHY!!?!?!?!?!?!?

MahFreenAmeh 17 years, 9 months ago

Yes.

Cesque 17 years, 9 months ago

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For instance, most of my common languages in the recent time that has past, have been what one might call agglutinative. The upside to agglutination is, despite the confusion that it calls for, a rather interesting language. The downside, is, of course, confusion in the case of many.

Speaking of confusion… try polysynthetic :)

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So it's fundamentally the same thing, except for the addition of en to eten, signifying that that is the direct object being modified by the verb, so to speak.

Actually (but I guess you know that), agglutination is fundamentally different from inflection in that inflection doesn't "stack", e.g. plural genitive suffix is different altogether from both singular genitive and plural marker, while in agglutinative language it would be a mixture of both.

Also, you push the idea of agglutination slightly towards the whole polysynthetic thing… e.g. "enjoy food" in most agglutinative languages would still be, I believe, two words.

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The concept of using morphemes within a language instead of actual words themselves would allow the language to be dynamic, and developed by the speakers, not necessarily by the founder.

Heh, this concept has already been used in a few artificially created languages ;)

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My arms hurt like hell today.

Heh, mine too. Thanks to my going to the gym ;)