|bd| Stemming the Idiot Tide

Posted by bendodge on Sept. 15, 2007, 12:59 a.m.

You've all heard it for months now: "This isn't a small site anymore.". And it's true. The number of members has ballooned. But somehow, the number of regular users hasn't seen such drastic growth. Why?

The reason is simple, and everyone knows it. Most of the signups are "junk" members. The sort of people who make a couple posts, and then forget about the site for a month. Worse yet are immature members who go on spasmodic blitzes of spam, leet speak, or anything else that enters their head. (Note that there are several regulars who are guilty of this, but usually they tend to show at least some signs of intelligence when they do.)

Where do all these people come from? For the most part, they join because of 64Digits' growing visibility (awards, mentions in articles, sig links and of course the users' constant talking about the site). People eagerly join up, but then they find that the site is rather closely knit, and that becoming a "regular" takes work. Then they lose interest, vandalize, spam, etc.

Are they really a problem? I say yes, mainly because all these extra users create a nasty mash of blogs and comments that obscure the regular posts, which are what most people want to read. Now, I don't have a problem with new users, as long as they show some maturity and post frequently enough to be remembered. Most members can even put up with people who don't post regularly, as long as they show a spark of intelligence.

So what can be done? Some have suggested an invitation-only community, but that would be too restrictive. A better suggestion I saw was to require everyone (minus a few "legacy" accounts) to log in at least once in a certain time or have their account nuked. My personal idea would be to use the login time idea in conjunction with a user trial period.

The trial period would work as follows: a user signs up for 64Digits, and he is granted access. He can do everything except participate in other user's trials. During the month long trial period, he would have some sort of notification by his username or on his blog, and people could either vote for or against him, like a karma system. At the end of the trial period, he must meet a minimum limit, let's say positive 5. If he passes he is a permanent member, but he still cannot vote for other trial members for two more months. If he doesn't pass, he no longer exists. I believe this would effectively eliminate most of the clutter and preserve sanity.

Now, this isn't a totally fair system, as it tends to maintain the status quo and has a potential for abuse. But I think something need to be done. As politicians think: "Something must be done. This is something, therefore it must be done." What do you think the something is?

Comments

bendodge 17 years, 3 months ago

I apologize if this has proofreading errors; I've been very busy and didn't have much time to work on this.

Scott_AW 17 years, 3 months ago

It happens to any place thats remotely popular and has easy signup access. Will new rules and policy solve this problem? Nope.

s 17 years, 3 months ago

Solution?Ignore 64D

Make the karma need more like 0.If for every bad there is good,then there is good

Crane-ium 17 years, 3 months ago

I think that system would fail ultimately. It'd make things too complex and would drive people away from this site. I think 64d is fine as it is, and if you get annoyed by noobs, then wait for them to mature. Everyone was once a "noobie" on this site one time or another.

bendodge 17 years, 3 months ago

Scott, the whole point is to make signup a bit harder, but not quite so drastic as invite-only.

It's not being new, it's acting stupid that bothers me. But yeah, I think serprex is right about the score. I didn't think of that.

shawn 17 years, 3 months ago

Is that you in that banner?…

But, the system sounds goodm but in the end it would just not work in my opinion.

bendodge 17 years, 3 months ago

Yes, it's me. The picture is about 6 months old though.

Can anyone give any specific reason why the system wouldn't work? Like: "People wouldn't take the time to vote for new members".

flashback 17 years, 3 months ago

I like my idea better: Ban everyone, then unban them when they pay us $10. Roots out poor noobs, and pays for the server.

LoserHands 17 years, 3 months ago

I say we warn users when they intentionally use leet speak, or are being immature.

Josea 17 years, 3 months ago

Some people register here just for the free hosting, sometimes they may upload something and forget about it.