INTP

I really disliked some of the questions, because I wish I could have selected both of the options at times :d

EDIT: No problem hel. That quote is awesome by the way!

also about my religion. I don't have one, but if some type of GOD or whatever that could be presents themselves or itself to me and I witness it I will believe then. But as for now all I think about is how the entire universe we live in could be an computer program, kinda like spore but way more advanced. What would be funny is if our program was a very simple and Noobish program in the place we were created in. I could go on for days with multiple concepts about how we could be a simulation of some sort but time I have not. I do dislike my theory as it means we will have an unlikely chance of escaping unless we found a leak in the program and manage to control something from the other world. Also the thing I hate the most is that maybe the person who started our program will get bored and decided to delete us some time, or maybe we are running on an old computer that is in some abandoned building in this other place and the electrical power(or whatever it is in this world) that is keeping our existence alive is slowly diminishing or turns off suddenly at one point at which then we would dissapate and will be forgotten forever.

Anyways about the last theory in the paragraph above, it could be related to you turning off spore and never playing it again since a better game came out. You will have forgotten "us" and we will most likely never see existence again. Think about it. Of course don't take that literally in the sense that you need to always play spore, I mean it's only a game with AI that doesn't really learn or evolve by itself, but maybe the person playing our game or simulation thinks that we are primitive and that it doesn't matter whether he doesn't play "us" anymore.

wow that was a lot. I should write a book about this :d

Interesting. I think you may just find that the majority of people interested in GM and communicating their thoughts and ideas on it, just might mostly fit easiest in this INTP category. I don't think INTP is just maths, it can be science, rationalism, art, music, etc.

I don't like this kind of categorizing. Any psychologists I've read about have all said these kind of tests are just silly estimations, trying to make shallow logic out of something they don't understand, the brain. Like the "left and right sides represent two distinct abilities" thing, its a decent approximation, but its mostly bullshit. So don't live by it. It's completely possible that you'll be entirely, genuinely different in 10 years.

As for religion, I am atheist. Technically, you might say I'm agnostic, although I don't think any of the traditional religions reasonable. I don't think you can deny the possibility of some sort of God, but then again, you can't deny there being a last number in infinity, or that you're currently in the world of The Matrix. It's the fact its just so improbable, theres no point of living by it. If you live a good life, theres an equal chance you were meant to live it badly.

If you're afraid of seeming to disobey your family by not being Christian, don't be, my family are Irish Protestants, so they're pretty strong about it, and I just refused to go to church or get confirmed. It's more political anyway, they don't care about God while they're threatening to kill each other. I feel sorry for the really strict Christian kids, like the kind in weird sects or who talk about God all the time. They've been indoctrinated into religion by their parents for so long they're afraid to think straight.

I got INTP as well. What a surprise.

I also did that multiple intelligence test. Verbal/Lingustic->Mathematical/Logical->Musical. Makes sense.

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I'm a Christian, and I'm happy with my faith. I find it hard to believe that everything happened in some huge accident.

I have a problem with evolution, because I refuse to see humans as animals. Sure, we've all got hearts and flesh and lungs and stuff, but humans are fundementally different. We act on free will, and rational thought. They act on instinct.

I also have a problem with the big bang, because no-one can tell me where "the two huge things that crashed into each other" came from.

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Regarding The Matrix, I wonder, if we're in a computer system in the real world, could the real world be in a computer system in the real world, which is actually in a computer system in the real real world, which…

Is there a real world? And if so, what's it like? Are people five dimensional there?

Yes. They have a dogmatic attitude. Wait, but I wouldn't call it the 'death of intelligence'. There are plenty of intelligent people who believe in God.

@ meow44: If God appeared to you, would you question your sanity? You would question further if you fell back into the sceptical mindset, and say things like "Why didn't God appear to other people? Why doesn't God stop suffering?" etc. But if God or an angel appeared to you, likely you'd be so overwhelmed that you wouldn't think that way anymore. Also, interesting theory. So.. We are in a computer program, designed by (relatively, compared to us) ingenious aliens, who have managed to give us consciousness too. How could we escape if we are part of the program itself? Would we even be able to survive in the alien world if we are nothing but software? We are part of this er.. program, and depend on it. But we will all die anyway, So meh. The thought of dying seems to weird and fascinating.

Fair enough. But the fact that anything even exists at all seems so absurd. I suppose we could either trust that someday all will be discovered via science, say that God did it, or just keep an open mind.

@ Sandwich: First paragraph, true. Second paragraph; yes it is estimations, and of course the human brain would be a lot more complicated than for its workings to be shown on internet quiz results. It won't be perfect, but it is still interesting, and some of the things fit right. Third paragraph; I agree. I've often wondered about the matrix thing. I want to make a list of things you can't disprove, that might be interesting. But I'd rather not live my life badly (I suppose the definition of a bad lifestyle would depend on ones worldview though) even if there were an equal probability of some evil deity who wishes for me to inflict pain on others ruling the earth. I'd rather live by morals that are beneficial to society (i.e. not cheating, killing, stealing etc.) even if I didn't have to because of God. And if I wasn't a Christian I would not tell my family.I would rather not cause them grief. And I know what you mean about brainwashed kids. It's not just Christians either, some of it's scary. But I don't think harm is done when they're bought up in a Christian environment, unless it's like Westborough baptist church or something. But they may end up a little naive and think that evolution is of the devil or something..

@ Juju: I agree. I think most internet dwellers tend to be introverted.

Oh I did that intelligence thingy as well, I'm Logical/Verbal/Physical. Yes that's right. There's a jock amongst you. Prepare to be wedgied into next week, nerds! Nah, just really like climbing and hiking.

Frankly, if we were extroverted then we'd be outside playing with each other in a totally non-sexual way. It's not that I'm a social reject, no no, it's just that I prefer to be inside where it's warm and musical.

In terms of this whole God debate, I'll wade in all theological munitions flailing once I've cooked my lunch.

@flak3r: Good, I am happy for you.

Evolution wouldn't really make us animals. Even if we were, it would not devalue us. We are fundamentally different to the animals though, you have a point.

I suppose atheists would have to believe that mysteries such as that will be solved someday through science. But something coming from nothing sounds unscientific. So does saying God did it, but I suppose that's why they call it faith. I guess it depends on your subjective experience and personal convictions.

Regarding your thoughts on the matrix, it's one of those unfathomable things.. Mortal beings cannot comprehend what eternity means..

@ Juju: Okay, haha :)

I wonder if I'd be smarter or stupider if I were more extroverted. Stupider as in a ditzy social butterfly who is too preoccupied with relationships and events to have intellectual pursuits, or smarter as in more assertive and quick-witted, with more life experience.

We act on free will? Is that true, or again, are we just simplifying what we don't understand? Free will is just the illusion that we had a choice. Just like when you program a game's "brain", our brain works by laws and rules.

In a game, you can always work out what's going to happen in the next frame. There is no "random". It is the same in the real world. You can't make a "free will" decision, just like you can't make a "random" number. In games, we have pseudo-random number generators, and there's a fairly similar illusion that happens in your head to make you think you have free choice.

Of course, this assumes the foundations of all mathematics are correct… Which of course, they might not be. Then there is all that sub-atomic stuff that does seem random… but I don't know, someone here probably knows a hell of alot more about it then I do.

Also, one thing people misinterpret about evolution, is that somehow the species was "trying to survive" or "evolved because it needed to". Which is wrong. Evolution is just cold, unemotional science. We exist because we do.

But I'm just a 15yo who likes Philosophy class… :P