Evolution - EDIT: The beginning of the universe.

Posted by Extravisual on June 16, 2006, 11:12 a.m.

It happened. 'nuff said….

Not enough said at all…

People seem to find the concept of evolution hard to believe, so I'll explain it to make it make sense… [theory]If genetics exist then there is no alternatives for evolution.[/theory] (Yes that was my theory, but that doesn't mean that evolution is…) Okay, here is a brief rundown of how this all works:

Woman has baby

Baby has a genetic defect in its leg.

Baby dies because it can't move.

Babies genes are not passed on in the genetic line.

Next scenario

Woman has baby

Baby has a genetic defect making it slightly stronger than others of its species.

Baby grows up healthy because of being able to provide for itself. (baby is now man)

Man has more babies, each one of them has a 50/50 chance of having the same genetic defect.

Each of the babies with the genetic defect have a higher chance of surviving than the ones without, therefore have a higher chance of continuing the genetic line….

Those were two examples of a specific part of evolution called natural selection.

Unless you can prove genetics false, and prove that a cripple fighting a bear has the same chance of winning as a normal person, evolution will exist in my opinion.

EDITED:

Well as many refuse to be persuaded in favor of evolution, I am not going to push the subject, as I have said before, I am not out to run the world. So now I've decided to edit this and post my personal theory about the beginning of the universe, well, at least whats in it.

PART 1: The Only Part.

It starts with the big bang… I know what many of you are thinking, 'the big bang is bogus…' Well, I don't believe in any supernatural force so this is the best theory I've heard.

So there was this massive ball of a ma terial I think of as a giant atom, it was just pure electron, proton, and neutron… But because this giant atom was so fricken huge, its nuclear membrane couldn't hold it together… so boom a massive explosion sending an uncountable number of sub-atomic particles whizzing in all directions, radiation that would have disintegrated anything in its way… because of the magnetism of these loose sub-atomic particles, they started clumping together to form atoms, these atoms, gravity started pulling on each other, making them start to revolve around each other, forming nebula throughout the universe. These nebula, having huge amounts of gravity themselves started pulling them toward one another, forming many groups of what are now the center of galaxies. These nebula, using what particles they have, started forming stars by gravity compacting tons of Hydrogen until under the pressure, the Hydrogen ignited in a force that created fusion. These stars, having a great deal more gravity than nebula, pulled themselves together to form a globular cluster, then a black hole. (I have no idea how the nebula escaped the power of the black hole…) The nebula continued producing stars, and the black hole kept sucking them in until the black hole started filling up and couldn't keep up with the gravity that the universe full of other black holes produces, so the stars escaped the clutches of the black hole and started very slowly drifting into space. Some of these stars burnt out, either forming nebula, black holes, or a large mass of unused atoms. These atoms, drawn by the force of gravity, started drifting towards the stars, forming planets, comets, asteroids, etc… As our sun is quite an old one, this is about the time our solar system was made. Most of these planets were gaseous, but a few were solid, made of Iron, Carbon, etc… And a few of these planets formed atmospheres, because they were close enough to the sun to get heat, but far enough from the sun to not burn up from ultraviolet radiation. So the galaxies are about finished being created by now, so with atoms colliding at random places in the galaxy, happening every few seconds…. The probability for these atoms colliding to make life is probably 1 in 8000000000000, but this probability is run every few seconds, for 8 billion years, that problability could be hit a few hundred times… Now on this little planet, we now call Earth these random occurrences happened, and formed a single celled organism, which for some reason reproduced, and evolution began. A few million years later, the dinosaurs walked the earth. But then a really big asteroid from mars hit, forming the pacific ocean, and blocking out the sun with the sediment that was blown around. With the sun being out, the plants slowly died, killing out all the herbivores, and forcing the carnivores to eat themselves out. now that there is very little life left, a few little cells crawled out of that asteroid, and evolution started all over again, forming what we have today. Note that this process did not work over night, it took trillions of years.

Comments

Extravisual 18 years, 6 months ago

#20: The cell builds itself out of RNA, the cell is nonexistant without the RNA, the DNA determines the charactoristics of the cell and makes the RNA, the dna did not just 'float' into the cell. Personally I'd like to hear your evidence that creationism is true, not just how evolution is false.

melee-master 18 years, 6 months ago

I personally think the creation of our universe and how it came into being is too much to comprehend… For any of us.

Extravisual 18 years, 6 months ago

Looking at the big picture on a small scale is not that hard…

mixahman 18 years, 6 months ago

It's easy to change an "idea" but it's hard to change a "belief"

…nuff said! ;)

mesenberg 18 years, 6 months ago

@halibutski

So the RNA makes the DNA and the DNA determines the RNA? sounds like a circle to me. How did the first RNA and DNA start?

And I havent given evidence for Creation yet because if you all think that evolution is flawless then youll pass it off as religious fairy tales. You wouldnt even listen to the arguments, so Ill save that for tommorow. [:P]

@mixahman

I agree, although I am not forcing my beliefs on anyone, Im just sheding light on the whole situation, too many people only see 1 side of the argument.

BTW: these discousions have been good for my activity on 64D

mixahman 18 years, 6 months ago

Hell I love this site, I'm active everyday.

Extravisual 18 years, 6 months ago

#25: I don't think I said RNA makes DNA, I said DNA lays out the plans for RNA, which physically modifies the cell… even if RND did make DNA, which came first? The chicken or the egg?

mesenberg 18 years, 6 months ago

teh chicken. [:P]

Cesar 18 years, 6 months ago

I believe that Anti-matter is the reason why the Big Bang occured, why? becuase when Anti-matter and matter collide, a MASSIVE explosion happens, which would have released loads of matter when Matter won…

anyways, RNA is the basis of DNA, RNA is a single strand of DNA without the amino acids DNA has to connect both of the RNA strands. The egg came first because the Chicken evolved from dinosaurs, which layed eggs…

yup… i like physics… hope I could take it without taking Chem or Biology, i'm barely entering high-school…