Controversial Blog #1: Gays.

Posted by Shork on July 26, 2007, 5:17 a.m.

I noticed that blogs that cause controversies are blogs that get hits. Firebee recently wrote a blog about evolution vs creationism. I supported the evolutionist side becuase I feel that creationism limits God's power. If you had infinite power, making the entire universe in just 6 days seems boring. I want big bangs. Besides, the scientific evidence all supports evolution anyway. If you try to claim that the bible is good enough evidence, remember, the bible said that the Earth was the center of the universe and that pi is exactly three. Parts of the bible are excellent for trying to figure out how to live your life, but it's not that hot at doing science.

I got annoyed that people seemed to ignore scientific evidence and basic facts, many seemed proud to be scientifically illiterate. I thought "How could some one be this foolish, not to pay attention to class at least?" but that's when it hit me. Firebee didn't post that blog to debate evolution or creationism, he wanted blog views. If I want blog views, I need controversy. So I'm starting a series of blogs garaunteed to piss you off at least once.

Here goes: Gay marriage. I favor it.

For millenia, marriage has been defined not solely by the requirements of reproduction, but by cultural and religious views. For example, early judaism, mormonism, and modern day islam all included polygamy as an accepted, and even encouraged practice. In ancient greece, 30 year old men would hold their 15 year old boyfriends in higher esteem than their 13 year old wives. Marriage is not a consistant feature of human society, it has not always been a "one man, one woman" institution.

The one thing marriage has always been is religious. People get married in churches, thier church establishes rules for who can marry who. The idea of marriage conferring certain legal rights and status is a recent development, only beginning in the late 1700s. Since marriage has always been religious, is it correct for government to get involved in who can and who can't get married? I support getting the government out of the marriage license business all together. The government should instead issue a civil union to any pair of individuals over the age of 18 and consenting. This civil union would grant all the tax, property, and healthcare rights currently associated with marriage. Then, if a couple wants to be called married, they can go and find a church willing to do it. If a church was willing to marry a man to a banana, then let them. Just don't give them a civil union.

Therefore, I feel that gays have the right to get married, in a church willing to do it, and should get all the rights of a married couple through a civil union. There are too many physical traits like hair whorls, finger lengths, and the proportion of limb to torso size that are all correlated to homosexuality to make being gay a choice. You can't choose which way your hair grows, afterall. This fact puts sexual orientation in the same classification as race or disability, it's just something your born with, and therefore should not be discriminated against.

And besides, who would want to stop two hot russian supermodel lesbians from marrying each other.

Comments

Lethal 17 years, 6 months ago

BEING GAY IS NOT A CHOICE, THATS FINAL! It really, really isnt! Trust me.

shawn 17 years, 6 months ago

trust you?…

OL 17 years, 5 months ago

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->A lot of people, including OL and ghg:

1. You are completely ignoring the evidence I presented; I can only assume you can't answer it. So, tell me if you can: If homosexuality is an involuntary condition, how come people renounce that lifestyle? Surely if it were "known" to them, as you claim, they would not abandon it like that?

Did you think that these people might have not been actually gay, but infact sexually confused? That said, it's obviously possible for people to choose to be gay, for what ever reason. Point is though, I think it is possible that on the other hand there are likely people who did not choose to be, but rather it was something to do with their genes/DNA/whatnot. I'm no expert on genetics.

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2. You might as well say that a burglar "knows" he should have that shiny new car; therefore, we should let him have it, because it's obviously his destiny to own it…

Not sure what the hell that means. Probably not aimed at me.

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3. A lot of your argument is based on "knowing" something - one of the most pathetic, vapid forms of "proof" known to mankind.

Damn, you're a gigantic hypocrite. Your whole religion is based on 'knowing'. You like to call it, 'faith'. Anyway, I don't think that was aimed at me either.

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4. homosexual animals? Hah. You know, I have a dog that chases other dogs and has almost killed several… does that mean that she's a dog-killer by nature? OR (as is far, far more likely) is it something she's learned to do?

Wow, that was a bad comparison. Sexual drive is natural, it's in our genes to have sex and reproduce. The dog killing thing could be learnt or natural, I don't know. This is a shady area, known as "Nature vs Nurture".

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There are a lot of people today who would like this to be another racial issue.

Since when was this a racial issue?

@SJF

For once I mostly agree with you, especially point number 4.

SumoDeUno 17 years, 5 months ago

if you changed your dna into a watermelon's dna, you'd be a watermelon. you're a complete fucking idiot. just like people who take the bible as scientific evidence, that's totally more fucked up than you.

chuck norris is fucking awesome, but he doesn't think evolution is real, proving that somebody actually did hit him hard enough to fuck up his mind.

melee-master 17 years, 5 months ago

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If homosexuality is an involuntary condition, how come people renounce that lifestyle?

Then they're either falling to pressure, they're bisexual, or they weren't even gay in the first place.

Flea1991 17 years, 5 months ago

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the bible said that the Earth was the center of the universe and that pi is exactly three.

…Where?

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thier church establishes rules for who can marry who.

You must mean: "their church establishes rules for who can marry who based on the Bible, in most cases."

omicron1 17 years, 5 months ago

HAH!

Just as I thought. You're so hung up on your own belief that you're willing to disregard every argument to the contrary, and just blindly support your own theory.

So, let's reason this out. Since this is based on subjective thoughts… there are a lot of people that know they're George Washington, Tzar Peter the Great, or some other such important figure from history. Surely they're correct…. right?

You can't use "knowing" something as evidence. It won't stand up in any situation requiring evidence.

Shork 17 years, 5 months ago

Or the koran. By church I meant place of worshop, not specifically christian.

And I forget the exact passage, but somewhere in the old testament it talks about a big bowl with a circumference of 30 cubits and a radius of 5 cubits. If circumference is 2 x pi x radius, then pi must be 3.

omicron1 17 years, 5 months ago

…and common sense establishes rules like "You can't marry a banana." If there are no limits in place on such things, they lose all semblance of specialness. If marriage is no more than a ritual observance; an agreement between two entities; it loses all significance. The family unit becomes less important. Divorces become common. Unwed mothers roam the streets, and fatherless children grow up alone. The nation descends into a pit of crime - and all for the mindless pursuit of pleasure.

Don't believe me? Look around at the existing consequences of that abominable free-for-all.

omicron1 17 years, 5 months ago

->Shork: Which is actually pretty close, considering they would have had a whole lot of trouble accurately measuring the bowl's circumference.

Honestly, they measured things by the length of a man's forearm. You can't expect them to have it exact to thirty decimal places, can you?