Unlike apparently every other user of GM, I have welcomed the addition of YoYo Games from day one.
It's the best place for playing GM gamesMany people complain about YoYo Games being full of rubbish games, but it couldn't be easier to find the brilliant ones. Including featured games, on the front page alone there are 16 games that you can guarantee are fun to play, if you manage to play all those the staffs pick section has over 200 more great games. I do not believe that anyone can go onto YoYo Games and not find a game worth playing.It's a professional outlet, where people can direct other's to so they play their games quickly without faffing around with zips18 months ago, if someone had made a game they wanted to show off to friends they'd have to direct them to a download link, wait for it to download, open it, extract the contents, and then finally hunt down the .exe file to play it. Now though, a link to the YoYo Games page (a one time install of Instant Play), and then one click of Play Now and they're away.GM will become more advanced than Mark ever could make on his own, with multimillion dollar investments confirmedSandy has said that $5,000,000 are being invested in YoYo Games and Game Maker. This is an unprecedented amount and no one would have ever imagined this probably even 12 months ago.A Mac version AND C++ rewrite is in the worksGame Maker for Mac will open up a whole new market front, with few ways for Mac users to make games cheaply (or even for free) this is really a whole new frontier for GM. Then once the C++ rewrite has been done, we can probably expect Linux versions and even the possibility of other ports to more platforms such as consoles.Seamless online highscores soon to comeCurrently knowledge of DLL's and servers are needed to generate an online highscore, but soon this will be able to be done with no more than basic GML knowledge. It's also likely that the higscores will be viewable without having to enter the game itself.Proper review and rating systemA way to rate games in many genres and in different categories. The system is without a doubt abused, I won't say it's not, but there's very few other places that allow such structured, detailed reviews. There are in fact some indepth reviews that I'm sure the makers find useful. Having only small comment boxes encourages.Sandy keeps everyone more up-to-date than Mark didMark rarely released development updates or any new things that were happening. In fact this is because not much used to happen!Massive prizes in competitions to help amateur game makersAll other contests offer rather minimal prizes (pen drives, computer games etc), but YoYo's have unprecedented amount of up to $1000! The deserving winner of any of the prizes would become much better off, so they are supporting developers so much.A better server for the GMC than Mark could have affordedYoYo Games took a long time fixing the GMC errors, but how long would Mark by himself taken? The servers they have now are fantastic and there is the new software with more features and more secure than ever before. It took the efforts of a full-time YYG employer many days to upgrade the GMC, how long would have taken the volunteer admins? (no offense to the admins, they do a great job).The sites completely free! I don't have to pay a penny to use it!Don't like the website? Don't use it. It's something extra that wasn't there before and therefore we're lucky to have it. I'll say it again, no one is forcing you to use it!I think the reason many people still don't like them is because Yoyo haven't done much in the short-term, but I admire the way they've instead invested instead in GM's long-term future. They could have easily released many new GM versions, with more features, but they've gone with the difficult (and sensible) option of making sure GM can adapt to more platforms and is easier to improve in the future. Game Maker will now certainly still exist in 5, 10, even 20 years time, whereas Mark would have given up on it eventually.Many seem to have the attitude that using the GMC or Yoyo games is a right, when in fact it's a privilege. When you pay for Game Maker, that's all you're paying for, the use of that piece of software, anything else is an extra.YYG are not going away, and therefore neither is Game Maker. If you ever start to not like YYG, just think, where we would be without them?
This is all true. Its just that the instant play phails and lots of the noobs use Yoyo.
Also you do know that the 64d-yoyo merge was a joke don't you?The worst thing about this is that you're right. On all accounts. But I still reserve the right to be irritated by their expired download sessions.
You present a good argument, but I have to disagree with you on a number of things. First of all, the most professional games are not there at all. YYG is home to some of the worst games I've ever played in my life. There are communities with much better games, eg. the Poppenkast.
Also, their review & rating system is really crap, actually. I've never seen a place where they rate out of 6. And the people who bother to write reviews are completely useless as well. They are either 100% or 0%, depending on the person. The people they feature on the front page are always the same, as well. They put a Seiklus rip-off and another game by the same maker. Also, they seem to love 2dcube (I'm not saying he's bad at all, I'm just pointing it out) at YYG. I think the staff pick s are extremely biases choices most of the time, and I've played better games that aren't ever featured. Perhaps they have done a lot so far, but they need to go a long way before I'm completely satisfied with them.1 No. Try thepoppenkast.com
2 Loading is crappy, forums are better, the community is terrible.3 Yes.4 Yes.5 Sort of yes.6 Sort of.7 Sandy is lame.8 Win.9 GMC doesn't deserve any good servers.10 WOW!It's the best place for playing GM games
Hello 64D.It's a professional outlet, where people can direct other's to so they play their games quickly without faffing around with zipsErr, this isn't true.GM will become more advanced than Mark ever could make on his own, with multimillion dollar investments confirmedNo, but it may reach it faster.A Mac version AND C++ rewrite is in the worksYes. mac's 2.5% of the market is SO worth it. C+Runner is neat, thoughSeamless online highscores soon to comeTHAT IS NOT A GOOD THING!Proper review and rating systemDoubly not a good thing, GMC people are thick!Sandy keeps everyone more up-to-date than Mark didMark had work to do, sandy works with GM as a job!Massive prizes in competitions to help amateur game makersYes, because YYG get nothing from the games. Right. Just wait, k.A better server for the GMC than Mark could have affordedThis is a valid point, but they also made it green.The sites completely free! I don't have to pay a penny to use it!You missed out a comma, it's not a plural of site, it's 'site is', it should be site's, mmmmkay?Incorrect, you have to sell your soul to YYG.Timoi is trying to make a point to all of you stubborn users. He's right about all of these. I don't understand why you guys are being so damn critical.
No, he's not right.
I wouldn't criticize if it were worthy of non-crit.Good points, Timoi, good points. You're right, the rating system hasn't been used well. It's being used by idiots. And the community is incredibly bad as well. You'll find a much better community on sites like 64d.
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Not a comma!Anything but a comma!Anyway, 1. anything worthwhile will be uploaded to 64D anyway2.Apart from the fact it's slow, and barely works, also… mess around with zips? If you're using window's inbuilt zip functionality, yeah, go 7zip or winRAR!3. I'll give you that.5. Becuase online highscores on a platform that's easily hackable are not a good thing! Anyway, there'll always be morons who hack a better score.7. I've always found sandy's attictude moronic and 'down with the kids', it is not a good thing,8. Help's their favourite game makers, sure.10, AHPOSTRAAHPHEEE!