@SMP The DLC pack is DLC packs.

Much meta

http://enigma-dev.org

Somebody had to say it

Honestly, I really don't see what the problem is. I for one bought the entire GMS suite and got it when it was on sale. I have been making sweet cash off this tool while leveraging the skills I learned from GM5/6. And I couldn't be happier.

Seriously, you guys berate YYG for loving money while forgetting the fact that it's competition cost much more. GMS full version cost $800 while Unity Pro (without the fancy licences) cost nearly double that!! Heck, if you want iOS and Android exports you will have to cough out an extra $3000. This all without even looking at the 2D options. GMS is a BARGIN!

I can't speak for PlayTech since I don't know what their motivations were for buying YYG. Mergers and Acquisitions happen all the time. But I can speak for my opinion of you guys. This site is nearly 10 years old, I can't believe its members are still complaining about expensive game tools. Where were you guys when Microsoft was screwing over XNA developers? Where were you guys when Epic was charging $1 million to licence the Unreal engine? Where were you guys when Torque 2D cost $500, per seat, per developer?

If you think game development, or any form of technical discipline is cheap, then I suggest you dig a hole and bury you head in the sand if is not already in there!

Steam vented, rant over.

Zero cost developer here. Just sayin'.

Personally, the cost of GM, Unity or any tool has never really bothered me. They have a right to charge for something that could potentially make the people they're selling it to money. And most of these tools are dirt cheap compared to a professional engine.

And I don't think anybody is really complaining about price, really. It's more about direction. PlayTech may or may not be a heartless casino game publisher. If they are, it's likely that GM's future will be affected by their "vision".

Either way… don't really care. GM is still a great prototyping tool, and C++ for serious work. Screw using cheap tools when I can grab a free tool, spend a bit of time, and create whatever I want.

Prediction time: This is probably not going to change much in the short term development of GM. It looks like YYG is still in control of that aspect; I somehow don't think that PlayTech have the know-how to tell the YYG crew what to do. What might happen further down the line is a series of poor marketing decisions, and potential officially sanctioned shovelware that comes with GM.

@mazimadu: Hey! long time. I would be on your side with this because it is a decent deal, but I have to disagree with the overall benefits for the price.

I know the price is half of what unity is, but I think i'd like to not look at it like a "bargain". That's like saying you might as well shop at the huge department stores that sell the 'same stuff' for cheaper. If you want something cheap thats fine. But in the end going to a slightly better store may be worth the money.

Regardless, I think YYG somewhat made the right approach but did not put enough effort into its interface and appearance. Meaning, I've always thought it would be beneficial to have a decent reputation for stability. I think they went too hard too fast, meaning, they set out to improve the compiler for instance, and at the same time increase portability. Good idea, but maybe it should have been a little more gradual.

I agree with hel here. They needed to adapt closer to the popularity of the casual market and those kinds of games. But its not that the tool is expensive, really, its that the tool is not beneficial enough to justify it. GM was relatively pretty damn stable in 8.1, but studio took quite a while before it was somewhat dependable.

… And I never liked their windows XP interface concept…