Fuck you.
In a recent speech, you equated atheism with Nazism. I am not a Nazi and the two concepts have nothing to do with each other.Yes, we live in an age where religion is quickly dying out. In the past, religion served to 'fill in the gaps' of human knowledge. Whenever science has come along to fill those gaps with the truth, those clinging to their religious beliefs stop the progress of science, and for many centuries, religion has held back the human race and our progression forward.Today we live in an era dominated by science and technology; new discoveries are being made every day, and we know more about the universe and it's workings than anyone in history. This is a scary thing for religion, because it's purpose of 'filling in the gaps' is quickly becoming vestigial. It is, of course, no wonder that a large number of religious bodies are aggressively fighting against this new era of humanity, and it's not surprising to watch them go to such ridiculous extremes as to make comparisons with Hitler and Nazism. Pathetic, really.But for calling me a Nazi: Fuck you.
No, Juju, it can be attacked.
For starters, with thousands of logically conflicting religions, they cannot all be correct.That said, religion relies upon making claims with zero backing evidence. It is completely unscientific. Unknowns are attributed to religion and people don't search for a scientific explanation because they already 'know' that it was god or whatever. It holds back scientific progress. It's unhealthy for humanity, regardless of any clever little philosophical arguments you make that we "can't rule out" religion, just as we can't rule out an infinite number of alternate 'religions' that nobody has come up with yet.Religious arguments are pointless. It's why I don't take on any particular one.
Dear HeroOfTime55,
Fuck you too.Love, Herr RatzingerIn reality, science has been just as deceptive as religion. Even though science has good methods, just like religion has good morals, both are subject to manipulation and lies for the benefit of the those how can game the systems to get power and profit.
Remember that a lot of the scientist of yore were religious, and not atheists.Also there have been scientist who say something is true/false but later get proved wrong or find the universe is more complex then thought.Think of all the herbal medicines that have come from various religions vs. the manufactured drugs that has come from science. Science has just recently found out that things like shrooms and canabis have health and psychological benefits, while its found that tylenol causes asthma in young kids. Then think of all the horrible birth control pills that caused various deformations and health problems.Of course there's plenty bad to say about religion, but that's already been said.Well done, Josea, well done.
But there's a difference between "logic presupposes some unverifiable relationships / science is not always accurate or beneficial" and "screw that, we should all believe some bronze age texts instead."
Cesque for the win. You cannot argue with science, because science is built on arguing and debating things to discover the truth. Science is "The Systematic Quest for Knowledge" and is not a set of beliefs. Science is the catalyst which evolves our knowledge of the universe, whereas religion sits there and resists any change in understanding of the universe with all the power it can muster, usually because some fat old bastard is sitting in a role of power, having convinced millions of people that "god chose him" or some other bullshit.
Funny how this whole argument start from misquoting the Pope. He never equated atheism with Nazis. His speech is here Part in question:
…we can recall how Britain and her leaders stood against a Nazi tyranny that wished to eradicate God from society and denied our common humanity…<snip>As we reflect on the sobering lessons of the atheist extremism of the twentieth century, let us never forget how the exclusion of God, religion and virtue from public life leads ultimately to a truncated vision of man and of society…I'm agnostic. I dislike Pope and his church. But we can't have argument if we misrepresent each others views.