The Family That Prays Together, Separates

Posted by Taizen Chisou on May 6, 2012, 11:55 a.m. 🔒

Attention Catholic mothers: please do not force your atheist 16-year-old son to put everything aside to watch a church programme that is in your native tongue that you didn't bother to teach him- it will be annoying to him on multiple levels. Do not slap, scratch, or repeatedly hit them in an attempt to force them to pay attention. It does not help your case, and it makes your beliefs look crazier in the end.

Attention atheist sons: Do not put up such a good argument as to back your religious mother into a corner, forcing her to call out your father. Make no attempts to explain to her that you cannot go to hell if you don't believe it exists, because her return argument is 100% guaranteed to be that you will go anyway.

Attention fathers of atheist sons who are arguing with their moms: If your stance on the matter is that religion is corrupt and faith is not, explaining why you don't go to church every Sunday, like your wife would like to have happen, find an easier way to break the news than "you're wrong; you can take him to church but you can't literally force him to believe in what you believe, that's his choice," and refrain from explaining exactly why religion is corrupt to the religious wife because you can hear the shattering in their voice when they are in denial about what you say. Especially do not raise your voice in the matter when Religious Wife decides that it's your fault that the child is "broken" because of your infrequent church attendance.

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sirxemic 12 years, 7 months ago

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And to me you're making useless arguments. This whole comment thread is plagued with people making statements with no support.
You know, instead of being a dickhead and say "The plural of anecdote is not data. " you could have said that instead >_>

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But I have heard your argument before, "if a is not b, then a must be c"
Stop misinterpreting me >_>

My argument is "if a is not b, then a must be a subset of the complement of b".

flashback 12 years, 7 months ago

I had assumed any of you had formal training in debate. My apologies.

You're assuming that Atheism is the complement of Theism, though, which isn't true. It's just making the opposite truth claim, where agnosticism makes *no* truth claim.

sirxemic 12 years, 7 months ago

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I had assumed any of you had formal training in debate. My apologies.
Says the one who had the possibility to kindly continue the 'debate' but decided to act like a douchebag by being sarcastic and not listen.

flashback 12 years, 7 months ago

Excuse me? You replied to "Where is your data" with "I have no data, here's some anecdotes" and expected me to say "oh well ok then"?

sirxemic 12 years, 7 months ago

I believe you forgot the fact that you replied to my comment in a way that sounded like you didn't listen.

BTW,

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You're assuming that Atheism is the complement of Theism, though, which isn't true. It's just making the opposite truth claim, where agnosticism makes *no* truth claim.
I knew something wasn't right with my reasoning! Thanks for clearing that up. Now excuse me while I go cry in that corner.

sirxemic 12 years, 7 months ago

I like how this has switched over to arguments on semantics.

flashback 12 years, 7 months ago

It's that or continuous "Well I'm right! No I'm right!"

Charlie Carlo 12 years, 7 months ago

"I like how this has switched over to arguments on semantics."

It's an argument on the internet; they always do that.

flashback 12 years, 7 months ago

It was funnier when Cyrus did it three posts ago.

sirxemic 12 years, 7 months ago

If this was an actual debate we actually had to agree on the definitions. As it turns out, I got my venn diagram on (a)theism and (a)gnosticism wrong.